by Kyle
(Asheville, NC)
Hi! So glad I found your website. This might be the perfect place to turn to now and in the future.
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by Carolyn Walter-Burch
(London, UK)
Question: Can the impact character forcing the protagonist to question their habitual ways of solving problems be a sort of 'generalised other'? Eg an environment the protagonist finds herself in, where everybody else seems to be doing something a different way?
If so could this be exemplified through various different characters who all take the same approach but different to the protagonists?
Answer: Great question. Sounds like what you are describing is a "man vs. society" type of conflict where the main character finds himself at odds with society as a whole, where his dilemma is whether to conform to social norms or rebel.
Certainly, you can make society itself the impact character, though it is more typical to have a character who represents the attitude or approach taken by society (e.g. Number 2 in the television series The Prisoner or the Prime Minister in A Clockwork Orange).
It is also perfectly acceptable for the role of impact character to pass, like a baton, from one character to another. The main character could encounter several people at different points in the story who have the same attitude/approach and who challenge him in similar ways.
Another variation is stories that have two impact characters advocating opposite approaches. The main character in such stories is often very innocent or naive. He has no experience handling the type of problem before him, so he must choose which of the two impact characters to emulate.
Note that the impact character doesn't have to actually appear in the story, as long as his influence is felt. You could have a character like Big Brother in 1984 who is a mere symbol representing a particular attitude/approach taken by society at large.
Another sidebar: It is common in this kind of story for the impact character to be the antagonist as well, though this is not necessary. You could have a story in which society faces a particular villain and the main character must choose between society's way of tackling the problem or his own.
Lots of possibilities, but the short answer to your question is yes.
by Jehrum
(Salt Lake City)
Question: After looking at my overall story outline, I discovered that my main impact character plays that role for most of the novel, but is absent from the first chapter and stops playing the impact character role just before the climax. To accommodate that, a character introduced in the first chapter sort of came to life and developed to have similar goals to those of the main character's, but he uses completely different methods to accomplish these goals. This makes him an ally to the main character in the first chapter, but because his methods and beliefs are so different from those of the main character, they end up clashing just before the climax. This makes him a good candidate for the impact character role, but I already have an impact character who works with the main character for most of the novel and is her polar opposite personality wise. They each present their own points of view to the main causing her to question how she should approach her job and life in general, but represent different ideas that neither compliment or clash each other and are almost never present at the same time in the story. Is it alright to approach the story this way, or should I just stick with one impact character?
Answer: Understand that one caveat here is that I haven't read your story, so I just have to infer from what you're telling me (which is necessarily incomplete).
The key to the impact character is the choice the main character ultimately makes: will she change, and adopt the impact character's approach, or will she grow in her conviction to remain steadfast?
So the first question is: what choice does the main character make? Is her crucial decision to adopt the approach of the first impact character (the one from chapter one) or the second?
From what I gather, your first impact character is present at the beginning (act one in a four-act structure) and near the climax (act three), which suggests that this character provides the example near the climax that has the greatest influence on the main character.
However, I gather the first impact character is missing from act two. Does this mean the main character's inner conflict is missing here (which would be a plot hole)? This would run the risk of deflating the tension regarding this conflict. Usually act two is where the pressure on the main character to change grows. On the other hand, if the second IC repressents the real innuer conflict (the one that must be decided at the climax) then having him just in act two could leave holes in this throughline.
It would be cleaner to have just one impact character. However there are other possibilities...
1. Hand-off the role of impact character to the second candidate in act two. But in this case, the second IC would represent the same approach as the first.
2. Sometimes you can have a main character who doesn't have a very strong conviction, so you can give her two impact characters with opposite approaches all through the story. She must then decide at the climax whose approach to adopt.
3. Sometimes a main character can try out an approach and waver on it before making a firm decision at the climax. For instance, maybe she adopts the first impact character's approach in act one. Then, in act two she is pressured to go in a different direction, perhaps by this second character, but then in act three she realizes the first IC was right all along and chooses to go back to his approach.
4. Sometimes you can have a sub-plot with a second impact character to illustrate why the main character resists the advice of the main impact character. However, in this case you still want the main impact character's arc to be complete. That is, he should appear in all four acts and his influence should be expressed as...
1. setup (establishing influence)
2. growing influence
3. maximum influence
4. impact character's resolution at end of story
Bottom line, I think you have to decide what the crucial inner conflict is for your main character and make sure that is fully developed. If that means reducing the role of another character, so be it.
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by Kay
(Grand Rapids, MI, USA)
Question: In a story where the main character is the protagonist, does your impact character have to be the antagonist?
Answer: Absolutely not. Traditionally, it has been common in plot-based genre fiction for the impact character to be antagonist, because these stories placed less emphasis on the main character's inner conflict. Combining the protagonist/antagonist relationship with the main character/impact character relationship is a way to simplify things. (Think James Bond vs. Ernst Blofeld in the early bond films, Sherlock Holmes vs. Moriarity, or Batman vs. the Joker.)
However, stories are usually much richer, more emotionally profound when the impact character is someone else and the story of the main character's inner conflict is distinct from (though still connected to) the overall plot. In romances, for example, the impact character is usually the main character's love interest and often these two characters will join forces against the antagonist.
In recent decades, forms of fiction that used to be very simple (for example, comic books) have been putting more emphasis on emotional depth, so it has become common even in these forms for the impact character to not be the antagonist.
For example, in the recent Green Lantern film, the antagonist was Parallax, a rogue villain who fed on fear. The impact character was Sinestro, a character who represented the principles of willpower and courage. He believed one had to reject fear.
Hal Jordan, the main character, tries to follow the same principles as Sinestro, principles he learned earlier from his father. But Hal knows in his heart that his fears cannot be suppressed. Eventually, Hal learns to stop fighting this part of himself, accept his fears, and use them to advantage. So he sticks to his original nature.
This forces Sinestro to change, and we see him at the end giving up his old principles and embracing fear as his new principle.
If you consider the 8 classic archetypal characters, the impact character is often the Guardian (the hero's mentor). For example, Obi wan Kenobi is the impact character to Luke Skywalker. But any of the archetypal characters can be the impact character.
Imagine for instance...
A Contagonist who tempts the main character to change his approach.
An Emotion character who shows the main character how to look at the bigger picture.
A Reason character who shows the main character how to focus on the most important task.
A Skeptic who challenges the main character's illusions.
A Sidekick who is smarter than the hero.
Forgive me for going off-topic a little, but even the protagonist can be the impact character in stories where the main character is someone else. For instance, you could tell the story from the point of view of the sidekick whose hero (the protagonist) shows him a better way to live. This has been the case with several of Dr. Who's companions in recent years. Melanie Anne Phillips often cites the novel To Kill a Mockingbird as a good example of a novel where the protagonist, main character, impact character, and antagonist are all separate characters.
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by Terrell
(Columbia, MO)
Hello, I have another question regarding character plotting:
A.) Is it possible to to have two separate/opposite impact characters? If so, do each impact character need their own individual "Impact Character Throughline"? If so, would they each need their own "Relationship Throughline"?
B.) If all the answers to the above question is yes, would I then need two separate domains list (Situation,Activity,Manipulation, and Fixed Attitude) for both characters? Assuming that the Main character has a different starting and ending relationship with each Impact character?
P.S. Your help has been tremendous on my story. Thanks again and if you are confused in any way by my question, just point it out and I will correct accordingly.
Answer: Two separate and opposite impact characters are usually employed only if your main character has no established approach - for instance if he is very naive, like a newborn babe in the world.
In such a situation, when the impact character suggests an approach, the main character has no reason not to simply follow that that advice. Result: no inner conflict.
So to create inner conflict for the naive main character, writers will sometimes create two impact characters with opposite approaches so that the main character's inner conflict becomes, "Who do I believe? Who do I emulate?"
The risk you run with this approach is that you could make the main character a less distinct, more bland, because he will seem to switch sides at times, or to be on no side. You would be in effect creating a subplot in which the main character would seem to be in one domain when dealing with one IC and another domain when dealing with the other. He'd be forced into these domains in order to be in opposition to the IC. Very tricky.
You are correct that this implies two relationship throughlines, otherwise the IC who has no relationship with the MC would have a harder time influencing him. (Bear in mind that a relationship can be distant.) However, unless you want to create a second overall throughline as well, the relationship throughlines for both relationships would likely be in the same domain, which would be diagonal to the overall domain.
In a longer novel, it is possible to have more than one story, each with its own set of throughlines. Or you can have subplots that are less developed than the main story. Sometimes the various subplots can involve some of the same characters or share one overall throughline.
However, it is more common to see multiple impact characters who represent the same approach and have the same domain. They simply appear at different times in the story. They represent the same dramatic role, but the baton is passed from one to the other. It's like in The Prisoner TV series where each episode has a different person running the prison, and there's never more than one, but they all have the same approach and attitude.
You can also have a group be the impact character, as in a corporation or army where all the members take the same approach.
by Terrell
(Columbia, MO)
Hello, I have a few questions to ask in regards to certain movies.
A.) First have you seen: Inception, Godfather part 1 and 2, The Matrix, as well as The Lord of the Rings Trilogy?
B.) Secondly, if you have seen any of the above movies, my friends and I have been arguing about who were the impact character in each movie. We already know that the main-protagonist in each movie are: Dom Cobb, Michael Corleone, Neo, and Frodo Baggins respectively. Who are each of their impact characters and why in your opinion?
I think in Inception it is either Mal Cobb or Ariadne; Godfather part 1 I think its Vito Corleone, but I have no idea for part 2 because it didn't that anyone influenced him; in the Matrix, it is between Morpheus or Agent Smith; and finally LOTR, I feel its either: Gandalf, Samwise, or Gollum. What do you think?
Your advice have truly been helpful.
Answer: This is a fun game isn't it - picking out the impact character?
Here's my contribution, for what it's worth...
1. The Godfather. I'm not overly familiar with this series, I must confess, but Melanie Anne Phillips pegs the impact character as Kaye Corleone, whose role is to influence Michael not to become part of the organized crime racket. He doesn't take the advice.
2. Inception. When I saw this film, I recall feeling that the impact character was Mal, in that she was trying to convince him that what he thought was real was actually another level of dream. If true, this would destroy his happy ending where he gets to be with his kids again. (In other words, he stays steadfast by not heeding her warning.) But don't take this as definitive.
3. The Matrix. This one is easy. Neo's problem is that he has a hard time believing he could be the One. He doesn't "know himself," as the Oracle points out. Morpheus is the impact character who keeps trying to convince Neo of his potential. The need to rescue Morpheus is what finally causes Neo to change by giving up his self-doubt, which leads to Success. I do understand the confusion, since Agent Smith seems to act as the impact character to Morpheus at one point (when the film switches to Morpheus's point of view). Also Smith keeps saying Neo is "only human." But he doesn't really influence Neo so much as play the role of antagonist, trying to prevent the Goal, which is for the rebels to find the One.
4. Lord of the Rings. I have pondered this one for some time after a student asked me a similar question. While I'm not convinced Tolkein's story structure is 100% sound, I believe the impact character is actually the ring itself. Throughout the film, the ring keeps trying to persuade Frodo to put it on rather than destroy it. Frodo is a change character who, at the climax, follows the ring's direction and puts it on. As a result, though the story's Outcome is Success (the ring is destroyed), the Judgement is Bad. Frodo is left permanently damaged by his mistake (lost finger, morgul wound) and unable to ever truly return to life in the Shire the way his friends do. This makes LOTR a comi-tragedy.
Hope that helps a little.
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by JL
Question: Is it okay to have three characters be impact characters to each other? I've chosen my "main" character, as in, the character that'll be making THE choice in the climax, but my other two characters are also PoV characters and I'd like to develop them fully.
Answer: Yes, it is possible.
The key is to have each of your POV characters experience a different type of inner conflict, so they can impact or influence each other in different ways. Redundancy tends to be boring.
Bear in mind that to fully develop all three characters can make your novel feel like three stories in one, since all POV characters are the hero of their own stories. It may help unify the book if they can all share the same overall throughline, i.e. be involved or affected by the effort to solve the problem that concerns the story world.
Best of luck.
by Uchiha Sasuke
Question: So, my character is really damaged/depressed for the first part of the novel. From the start, he has this best friend that is the obvious impact character that is trying to help him through and heal him and stuff. Later in the story, the main character's brother comes into the story. His brother is also trying to help him through and stuff. Is it OK that the brother and friend are both impact characters?
Also, another thing that helps the main character heal is this girl he starts to like throughout the story
Answer: What you want to do is create a strong tension between two opposing approaches. The main character will have his approach and the impact character will have the opposite.
There are two ways you can do this in your situation.
1. Consider that story world, including all the minor characters, may have its own approach and values. But these may not touch on the main character's real conflict.
For instance, let's say you have a character who's depressed and wants to die. The world around him may be full of people who don't understand him and simply think he should buck up and stop feeling the way he does. But these people don't have any real impact on him.
Added to this, you might have one character who demonstrates a reason to live that no one else does -- someone who really does get under the main character's skin and makes him question his approach in a way no one else manages to do. That is the impact character.
2. It is possible for the impact character's function to be handed off from one character to another. This is usually done in cases where the original impact character dies or exits the story. For instance, let's say the main character had a grandmother he loved who demonstrated a reason to live when he was younger, but has now passed on. But then he meets a girl who has the same joie de vivre his grandmother did and causes him to reconnect with those old feelings and re-examine his current attitude.
Bear in mind that it is usually more effective to have one character at a time impact the main character in a personal way. To have several characters at once performing the impact character function at once is redundant and can feel artificial -- more like an intervention than a relationship.
A final tip... Often -- though not always -- the impact character is the main character's love interest, because few relationships touch us as deeply as a romantic relationship. Also, men tend to be linear thinkers and women tend to be holistic thinkers. Therefore, a love interest is often well suited to offer a different perspective on a problem -- and be listened to.
Best of luck.
Question: My impact character is my main character's long time friend. My protagonist is supposed to be a fairly decisive person, is there a way to create a balance between him being influenced by the impact character and sticking to his own judgement?
Answer: One way is to have your main character see the impact character succeed at something by taking the opposite approach the main character would. You can also have the main character try to do things in his usual way and not achieve success. Or you could have the impact character beat the main character in some competition. Several incidents like these in the first two acts create pressure for the main character to change. Of course, the impact character could also try to persuade the main character to do things differently, but examples speak louder than words.
Usually, the main character won't actually switch to the impact character's way of doing things until the climax, when there's so much at stake he can't afford to fail. By that point, enough doubt has been created in his mind that he's willing to try something new.
Of course, some main characters refuse to change. In such cases, the impact character usually changes instead. Sometimes that works out, and sometimes it doesn't (depends whether you want a happy ending).
by Terrell
(Columbia, MO)
Hey, is it possible for an impact character to influence the protagonist to a point that he/she actually does change in the end, but however, the impact was not like how the impact character intended?
For example, can a protagonist be a archetypal good guy and their impact character is more of an anti-hero; willing to do what is necessary to get the job done. However, when or if the protagonist changes his/her ideals to match the impact character, he/she instead takes it a step further and is much worse than the impact character and not exactly how the impact character wanted to influence them?
Answer: Technically, the main character's perception of the impact character and his interpretation of what the impact character is doing creates the pressure to change. Sometimes the impact character is trying to influence the main character. Sometimes he's just following his own agenda and the main character observes what the impact character does and responds entirely on his own. And sometimes the main character can misinterpret the impact character.
For instance, an interesting variation is the Hitchcock film Rope, in which a student who takes to heart the words of a former teacher and conspires to commit murder to prove his 'superiority.'
The student then invites the teacher to dinner and the bulk of the film consists of the student dropping hints about the murder. (We suspect he again is showing off his superiority and wants the teacher's approval once the murder is discovered.)
Of course, the teacher is horrified to see how he has unwittingly influenced his student (who probably suffers from sociopathology), and condemns rather condones his actions.
It's a variation because the film starts at the climax and really is just the fourth act of the story. However, it is an example of how a main character can be influenced by an impact character, even though the impact character had no intention of having such an influence.
by claudiacv
(Mexico)
Question: I´ve been reading about the role of the IC and I think Dramatica states that it should not be the antagonist (am I right?)but rather a mentor or friend--someone who can push the MC into doing what he has to do or being who he was meant to be. Is this correct? But what if the antagonist serves this purpose?
My second question would be--does the IC have to physically present throughout the story or can it be a memory of someone, for example the memory of the father figure that lives inside the MC?
Answer: Actually, the impact character can be the antagonist, but that may not be the best choice for your story.
In the traditional, comic-book, pulp fiction type of hero story, the hero was both the main character and the protagonist while the villain was both the antagonist and the impact character.
In that type of story, the hero defines himself as different from the villain in a fundamental (and virtuous way). The villain may try to convince the hero to become like him, but fails. When the hero wins the conflict, the thematic message is that virtue wins over evil.
The problem with having the antagonist be the impact character is that it makes it hard for the main character to change - because changing would mean becoming like the villain. It would be like George Bailey in It's a Wonderful Life accepting the job offer from old man Potter - which would imply becoming like him. Or like Batman giving up his sense of justice and becoming no different than the Joker.
The reason these stories feel so predictable is that they are. Sophisticated readers know the hero will remain steadfast, because it would be unthinkable for him not to (except perhaps in tragedy). The writer can try to make the decision seem difficult, but the sophisticated readers usually see through that.
However, if you separate the roles of the impact character and the antagonist, the main character does not have to remain steadfast. The impact character can be an example of the either the wrong way or the right way to solve the story problem. The right decision at the climax becomes less predictable. Should the main character change or not? Is the main character's usual approach the right way to solve the problem, or is the impact character's way right? Neither the main character nor the reader knows for sure until after the crisis has been resolved. The main character does not have to remain steadfast but can change at the crisis, adopt the impact character's approach, and have that be the right decision.
Of course, there are still many stories written in which the villain is the impact character and the main character stays steadfast. Series, for example, often work this way, because if the main character changed he would be a different person in the next book and might not appeal to the same type of reader.
As for your second question...
No, the impact character does not have to be physically present for his influence to be felt. His/her influence can come through memories, other character's recollections, diaries, monuments, videos, classroom lessons, religious teachings, etc. For instance, you could have a story where the main character's idol is Captain Picard from Star Trek. Every time the main character had a tough choice, he might think about what Picard would have done. Or he might flip through a book of Picard quotations, get a visit from an imaginary spirit of Picard, watch an episode of Star Trek on DVD, talk to a Picard fan, etc.